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THE CRITICS CORNER

 

THE CRITICS

“It is better to debate a question without settling it than to settle it without debating it.”  Joseph Joubert [1754-1824]

So why, you might ask, don’t the police work with the various Rom and Romani groups in an attempt to resolve their differences?  There is no easy answer to this question, but here are some of the responses such activists have submitted that should provide the reader with the information needed to answer this question.

As you read, consider the following questions:

1.         Are these critics attacking the material or the author of the material?

2.         What evidence, other than their opinion, does the critic offer in support of their criticisms?

3.         Are the critics commenting on information that appeared in the documents, or are they attributing words to the author and then basing their criticisms on their own creations?

4.         Does it appear the critics seriously considered anything that was offered, or might they just be operating on an emotional level?

5.         Does anything the critics have to say, suggest they are open to opposing viewpoints, or willing to resolve any differences? 

My responses are highlighted in yellow.
The critic's comments appear as sent.  No alterations have been made.

The Racist Card

"I am sure that you could trot out some specific instances of Roma fraud artists, as you could Samoan fraud artists, Winnebagos, Poles, Gujaratis, Camerounians, and so forth.  The fact is, is that you seem to have a fixation on the stereotypical Gypsy grifter.

You have placed much attenuating discussion and precautionary wording around your ethnophobic premises.  You have been very careful to disassociate yourself from a position of blind, blunt racism even to the extent that you seem to be willing to say there are "good Gypsies" and "bad Gypsies.”  But at the end of the day, you have us figured out as a bunch of crooked, little brown folk.  Shame on you sir.  May God make you a better man one day, or at least a quiet one."

This consists of the unintentional racist theory I told you about.  Just a case of, "I think you are a racist---therefore you are one. And to hell with facts that prove otherwise."

The Nazi Card

"Any attempt on your web page to distinguish yourself from your average Nazi skinhead is nullified by the attendant excerpts, which clearly and repeatedly equate Roma heritage and tradition with criminal behavior.  When you make connections like these, and whether you mean it or not, you discredit all my people: mothers and fathers struggling to adapt the particulars of our culture to the complexities of modern life; refugees from places like Tetovo, Kosovo, Bosnia, starting a new life in a frightening and confusing new land.  If you were some wild-eyed nut sitting at the high counter at Waffle House airing these opinions, it would be merely comic.  However, the fact that you extend yourself as an expert and advisor on security and gives your biased opinions a veneer of legitimacy.  That is what appalls me."

Once again, listening skills and reading comprehension appears to be a problem for the Romani activists.  Absent any attempt on my part to equate Romani heritage with criminality, one has to question the integrity of these critics, and more importantly--their motives. 

It’s The Dumb Cops Fault

"Yeah, right. Police never beat folks with no provocation, make broad racist assuimptions, or target ethinic grups that appear a litlle too clannish and opaque for they're liking, right? Certainly, not here in America right? Smell the coffee (and donuts if you'd please) y'all- America is police state overrun by a bunch of dim-to-average lawmen packing heat and stomping folks, parrticularily foreigners, black folks, and brown folks. There are very few professionals in uniform around- mostly tough guys playing a role and riding the clock. I go a gym were a lot of policemen work out. The conversations I overhear shock and disgust me."

This is the type of response one would normally expect to see at a grade school level. 

I Did Not Read Your Material, And Here's Proof

Examples Of Those Who Never Read What Is Written, But Are Eager To Offer Their Uninformed Assessments.

"It seems to me that you should be more careful about trying to tell the world that
all Roma are criminals. No one can deny that in any race, there will be good and
bad people, but to label an entire race for the crimes of the few is ridiculous and will always attract claims of racism from people who care. I would like to see a site set up by you that choses to label ALL Americans as criminals as this site does."

I challenge any of my readers to locate any page on this site where all Romani or Gypsies are classified as criminals.

Here's another:

"I think the subject says it all. I am proud of who and what I am! I am not claiming to be something I am not, nor am I judgeing others. Do you also find faults
with being Black, Jewish, Homosexual, or belonging to some other group you
are not part of??? What ever ethnic group you belong to has no dought done
much worser deeds than Gypsies have ever done. Please excuse my spelling, if
it isn't up to your standards."

Here's a reader who chose to insert of whole set of issues that might exist elsewhere, but certainly not on this web site.

The Anonymous Intellectual Approach

(Sample of responses that always arrive from an anonymous, yet highly opinionated, source.)

animals do in fact have a soul.and they also communicate to those on a different level.you seem so hell bent on uncovering smut on everything that you have a one track mind.whats wrong???did you get bacon when you ordered sausage???fucking lame ass!!!! [sic]

Here's another:

i am from uk, using somebody elses pc (therefore these are not their words)! i would like to say a few things to marlock. I may not be great at the written thing but im sure he will understand.
1) i am romany and have 200 times what you have
2) i am romany and 400 times the man you are and could prove it
3) you discriminate yet know jack **** (seems you sat on ya fat copper arse your whole career)
4) how many "high profile" child abusers have been hushed
up about just out of interest?
5) gypsy shit was your mothers wedding cake.
[sic]

Actually, I don't understand what this well educated man is trying to say. He has 200 times more of some quality I apparently lack, although writing skills and clarity of thought are not among those qualities. 

How he intends to prove his manhood should be interesting. I have investigated many child abuse cases and the abusers are now in prison.

It was interesting to learn that the Gypsies are in the cake business. Since this particular writer is so full of himself I'm certain he could produce many such cakes.

How Critics Flaunt Their Intelligence:

I found your website appalling, racist and ignorant. There are over 1 million Romanies (popularly but inaccurately called "gypsies") living in the US. They're an ethnic minority with their own customs, culture & language. Not all "gypsies" lie, steal, and cheat. There are good Romanies & bad Romanies..just as their are good, hard-working white people & bad, hard-working white people. One would never be so daring as to make a website informing others of "Hispanic scams" or "Jewish scams" - so why is it acceptable to make a wesbite about "Gypsy scams?" There are many hard-working honest Romanies & to accuse 1 ethnic minorty of such actions is absurd.

My Views

I will no doubt appear cruel, but I can no longer restrain myself when criticized by such illogical and silly people.  For those who wish to view me as their enemy, and who endeavor to discredit anything I have to report, then here’s some advice.  For starters, unless you enjoy publicly humiliating yourself, proofread what you write before posting it on the Internet.  In doing this, you might avoid absurd comparisons, poor grammar, and spelling errors.  To say that, “[t]heir are good, hard-working white people & bad, hard-working white people,” [sic]  does little to enhance your image. Then, too, you need to ask yourself why, of all the races within the American culture, you chose to use white people as a comparison.  Using your approach to life, one might assume that you are a racist because you think that whites set the standards that everyone else must live by.  Perhaps you intended no such thing, but I just wanted you to see how easily your self-righteous attitudes can come back to haunt you.

Another good practice is to read what your opponent has written, and then attack the items you find offensive.  By reacting to material that does not exist, or by inserting creations of your own making and then attacking your opponent for something he or she never said, only serves to portray you as something less than an intelligent person worthy of any serious attention. 

Above all else, check your facts!  You’ll never gain points by calling your opponent ignorant, followed by a demonstration of how little you know about the topic.  In the present case, there are a few errors:

1.
  No one knows how many Roma or Gypsies there are in the United States.  The “over 1 million” statement is not even a good guess let alone a fact.

2.
  Neither Gypsies nor Roma are a recognized minority in the US.  Even if they occupied this status, it does nothing to change how the criminal groups make a living?

3.
The belief that there are no web sites dealing with crimes committed by members within other ethnic groups is wrong.  Examples of those sites appear on this web site, however the critic’s never comment on them.  (see site link)

4.
To claim that it is inaccurate to call any Rom a Gypsy is, how can I say it --- inaccurate.  Perhaps the critics missed the many pages wherein it refers to Roma who Call Themselves Gypsies!   (see site example here.)

Many other critics have said the Romani people have a right to call themselves anything they want.  Well, there are groups of Roma who engage in criminal activities and who chose to call themselves Gypsies – so how hard should that be to accept?

Future Intellectuals Speak Out

we cant help it couse we got your momma pregnant us gypsy boys
are just so hot .                             
GodsGift341@aol.com

Your site sucks and its stupid on top of it how ever made it don't know shit. I bet the maker is shit spic somewhere in the world, you will be removed from bizland and amandote.net because what your doing is racism. White people steal lie cheat and kill. And so does evevry race in the entire world you hipocrites.

                                                    Signed:  The Gypsy Mafia

The Ultimate Professor

I recently received an email from a woman who claimed to be a cultural anthropologist.  She was quick to chastise me and other cops for making such a big deal out of the petty crimes some Gypsies engage in.  What's more, she felt all victims of the scams the Gypsies pull-off deserve what they get for being so stupid.  I responded to her with a few questions.  For one, what was her expertise in criminal justice, and how many of those silly victims had she actually interviewed?  I then wished her luck during her effort to author a book she said she was writing about Gypsies.  I also suggested that she might want to review something called cultural relativism when conducting her research, as this might actually lead her to some unexpected truths.

Her reply went like this:  "You seem to have taken my few words too seriously.  Having dealt with uneducated people before should have prepared me for your response."

I just love a good intellectual debate!


 

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